David Schirmer as he didn't want the world to see him!
schirmer has been described by ASIC as "misleading, deceptive, dishonest" just to name a few, but then most people that have had the unfortunate experience of doing any sort of business with schirmer would already know that.
For many years David Schirmer has been in the business of using his smooth talking ways to convince people of his "Expertise" in a number of areas, to get them to part with their money and in the process not fulfilling the promises that he made. In the end he not only hurt a lot of people financially, but even worse than that is the emotional trauma that is inflicted. He then used a lot of intimidatory and bully tactics to shut those people up. Well, that worked while ever he was an unknown conman, but the minute he came to prominence, thanks to "The Secret", his past sins, that he thought were buried, are slowly coming to life. In Schirmers response to Ben Fordhams question "You know there are skeletons in the closet David?", to which his response was "Oh, absolutely....".
This is not really about "The Secret", but it is about making Schirmer accountable, something he doesn't believe he needs to be. I read on a web site where he was talking about his "Expertise around money", yet the "A Current Affair" interviews show how little he understands this subject. It is also obvious from the interviews that he treats other peoples money as if it is his own, and that is undoubtedly a sure way of meeting disaster.
All comments are welcome, and any other links or forums can be added to this blog and will be put on the www.schirmerexposed.co.nr web site.
37 comments:
Finally someone is doing something about this guy. I think the term CON is probably a very nice one there are plenty more colorful terms that could be used for people like this scumbag. To think all he could come up with since being exposed is blame, inuendo and lies. But what else can one expect from a CON.
Oh WOW great news! I'll spread the cheer.
There are many similarities to what this guy appears to have done to his victims, to what that Koch guy from Australia or New Zealand did and he was recently jailed for 10 years. I think this guy is a danger to the public and should be locked up also. It just shows how fake most of the personal development industry is and how damaging it is to peoples lives. Its good to see someone taking some action and I really admire the people who have stood up to all these guys. They got away with it for as long as they could but they should have known that the empire would crumble sooner or later. You just cant treat people like they do and get away with it for very long.
"ASIC found that rather than disclosing difficulties he was facing with aspects of the Platinum program, Mr Schirmer chose to deceive Platinum participants and deliberately prepared and provided them with a false document."
Note the words "CHOSE TO DECEIVE" and "DELIBERATELY PREPARED" which simply says everything about this guy.
Schirmer has gone very quiet for a change. It seems it takes real muscle to put these sorts in their place. Frankly I hope they lock him up because the damage he has done as have many other people who operate like him is absolutely terrible. I know he touts being a christian but if that is his version of christianity then i would think that any church willing to associate with him and support his ways is also highly suspect. Just my 2 cents worth.
Is this Schirmers new address?
68 Newmans Road, Templestowe Victoria
You can run but you cant hide from all the people who want to get you it appears. Leaks, leaks and more leaks. Some people have real friends others have leaks.
FINALLY!!!!
So becoming of a Christian man, NOT!
Now the TRUTH is coming out.
http://www.moneymanagement.com.au/news/the-secret-contributor-banned-for-life-by-asic
Everyone who is anyone is reporting this guys misdeeds. I bet he is still claiming to be an honest trustworthy christian boohoohoo idiot.
Hey Jurgen, report it...
"People don't get smarter about things that get as basic as greed," Warren Buffett
Schirmer is the king of greed and he's being held to account right now and probably for the next 10 years or so.
The three "I's" are
The INNOVATORS (the smart people)
The IMITATORS (the Schirmers)
The IDIOTS (those who put the above on a pedestal and dont think for themselves)
it appears that this guy has been described by the powers that enforce the law in Australia as deceitful. I wonder if he ever realised that other people actually understand what hes doing and why. What seems to happen is that the phases people like this go through are as follows
the first phase sees a person offering distractions, half truths and even outright lies. In this case he is trying to save face by putting other people down and claiming all sorts of fanciful wrongs even publicly.
the second phase is when he confronts the truth because none of the above has worked and never will.
"you can't always get what you want,but sometimes you may just find, you get what you need."
Looks like Schirmy has to take his medicine despite his kicking and fussing and lying and deceiving and cheating and stuff which despite his incessant denial, he's clearly done.
This does not surprise me. I read Merrimans reports which Schirmer told me to buy. Schirmers comments were always that Merriman had a bet each way which proved to me that Schirmer was the one who was wanting to be told what way the market was going. In other words he did not have a clue what the market was doing. The fact that Merriman has a bet each way means he has no bias in the market which makes a good trader. I do not trust Schirmers advice nor do I have anything to do with them any more. I hope that helps someone.
http://www.moneymanagement.com.au/news/the-secret-contributor-banned-for-life-by-asic
Oh surprise surprise and to add to that he apparently owes the taxation department something like a quarter of a million dollars in unpaid taxes for his employment company that has also just gone under. You know if you cant get running a company right you should be banned for life. What the hell is wrong with our legal system that allows idiots like this to keep operating anyway. He has been proven to be a liar and a cheat so why give the idiot any more chances? Lets home they get him for good this time.
Ha ha Schirmer must be in serious trouble. According to his twit message he's having a really big battle. No doubt a battle brought on by his own actions. I dont feel sorry for this guy, I do feel sorry for the people who were caught up in believing him for whatever reason and I hope they were able to move on although I believe that sort of hurt cuts deep. Cheer up because my interpretation of Merrimans forecasts is that this guy has years and years of answering to do.
It seems this guy spends his entire life making excuses, blaming, lying, cheating and it looks like he's even really succeeded at being deceitful. Oh and all in the name of his God now thats something to boast about. If you cant succeed at deceiving people then claim youre an expert at the bible. Where do these people get off?
I found this on a guys page that Schirmer appears to be in cohoots with
" "You will run out of money before a guru runs out of indicators." Neal T. Weintraub"
I wonder if the guy ever considered that before he gave Schirmer any money for his trading advice.
After finding out that Schirmer was banned for life from offering financial advise I was very pleased with myself for not getting sucked in to his smooth talking fake trading guru crap. I found Schirmer a very dishonest person even in his personal life and that turned me off completely because he was also claiming to be a christian. As the saying goes if you cant be honest with yourself then you are never going to be honest with anyone you take money from.
I am so so so so pleased that ASIC have done something about David Schirmer. I think many people who knew him knew it was just a matter of time because there were so many holes in what he was claiming. To start with he never showed his trading records and from the evidence on this site I can see why, he was lying to everyone. He is still claiming to be the best of whatever in the world but now its just all words, they mean absolutely nothing because he has lost every ounce of respect from the public. You do the crime, you do the time. Very happy person here.
Actually I think with this guy unless you are of some use to him or got money to give him he doesnt want anything to do with you. I've seen so many staff come and go at his office and he's moved office that many times. It also looks like he's left a trail of unpaid debts everywhere he's gone so not a person you could trust.
I've only just started catching up on the Schirmers after being away for years and i just looked them up on facebook. i dont think i've ever seen a family with so many public issues in my life and the things the little kids come out with on facebook is super creepy. you wonder what actually goes through their minds when they hook up with shady groups especially like one of them has. be the look they are in a god awful mess in their minds but they are playing the christian card for all its worth too. makes a mockery of it all really, eeewk. thanks for these posts.
Pheonix, I dont think people do trust him thats probably why hes not doing much business. Hes attempting to set up some charity thing apparently. I wonder just how charitable he will be with his time or if he will have everyone else doing it for him while he takes the thanks and the goods? Nah, dont trust the guy myself.
I was a Schirmer client and incredibly I've just found all this information out and I am so thrilled because I used to ask questions of his company and would always get the answer that David was not available to answer my questions or David suggested that I pretty much try a bit harder to make his crap work. I got so sick of the run around after I paid a hefty sum of money to him that I started telling everyone I knew not to go anywhere near that company. I see he has closed a few companies since then and no doubt hidden the cash and claimed he's poor. I know how these cons work and he's no exception. I like the people he had working for him I felt they were decent hard working and genuine people and I felt so sorry for them because Schirmer himself seemed like a robot on stage and then came the sell off and then he's eye off all the women. His poor wife or maybe she should be pittied for being so damn blind I dont know but I dont trust either of them now and have actually dumped their crappy products like I know several other people have.
"I am so blessed. Every time people steal from me or abuse me or create disunity or harted against me God blesses me with more prosperity, more happiness, more friends, more opportunities ... amazing ... I give all the glory to God!"
Quote by the one and only DS.
What f#**4#G bullshit. The guy is deluded.
Theres really good discussions about Schirmer happening on a blog by Saltydroid check it out you might learn something that you dont already know http://saltydroid.info/category/david-schirmer/
If Schirmer is so rich as he claims then why the hell cant he pay his bills? I guess there is only one answer ............... LIES!
How can you trust a person who publicly LIES on one hand and tries to make you believe hes RELIGIOUS on the other.
Um, am I missing something?
The guy is strangling himself because he is renting his house and cars and stuff for ridiculous prices to maintain a fictitious public image while not paying what he owes to other people. Smart, real smart in fact so smart karma is catching up.
I found this address on the web somewhere, I think this is yet another way Schirmer screwed someone over because the guy who apparently was setting it up removed himself from Schirmer long ago. I bet if you contacted that address nobody would be home!!!!!!
Wealth By Choice or
David Schirmer
111 Congress Avenue 4th Floor
Austin Texas 78701
What a wanker, using everyone he can to get his means. Bloody christianity, what the hell does that mean?
The Schirmers are holding their camp for kids again in the school holidays and I have my mouth wide open because they have on their site that YOU can SPONSOR SOMEONE ELSES KID. What the? What about the freakin Schirmers sponsoring someone elses kid. losers.
Schirmer will rent a house for thousands a week just so there is no money left to pay anyone else. I know what type of people the Schirmers are and I wouldnt recommend them to my worst enemy.
How can you possibly call yourself a faith walking Christian (and what the hell does that mean anyway) on one hand and skirt the law as deceitfully and as much as possible on the other (per ASIC)?
These people are only kidding themselves. All the money they pay on themselves is worthless because they create more enemies, plenty of distrust and a shit load of bills.
No doubt also dragon woman and he who insists on being king and his consorts and mistresses will be running an infants fun park again because it props up the self image. And you've got to maintain that at whatever cost. Wow, what an achievement on the pretext of caring for people. Great work, keep it up it suits you and it suits everyone else to have a laughing stock.
These sorts are driven by self interests and a grandiose opinions of themselves. I bet if you went to their place for dinner you'd get fried chicken and potatoes with soft drink and cheap wine. Just guessing seeing as the kids seem to spend half their life in fast good outlets.
As per karma, law of attraction, vibration, hit and miss or whatever you want to call it, Its all looking good for one massive bust up soon. For anyone still skeptical, keep watching.
There is a Joan Hart from Australia on Schirmers facebook who is a seriously sick follower of Schirmers. Maybe shes getting more attention from him than what he wants his wife to know about. Some people are so up the arses of these pretentious gurus that they have no idea what they are saying or how it looks. Get a life Joan, Schirmer aint Jesus and he sure aint going to save you.
LOL that last post is so funny. No he aint Jesus but Schirmer would like you to respect him like Jesus. I see they dutifully parades a photo of their kids from the camp so they can exploit them all the more. Schirmers cant even pay their bills so how the hell is anything they teach good for our kids. They just run a kids camp so their own kids get a free holiday on other peoples money - pretty obvious dont you think.
Hey is this guy a Schirmer from Toowoomba? Those people are always in trouble.
I checked on the ASIC site and Schirmer and a bunch of companies that look like they do absolutely nothing. Could he have started a bunch of companies just to claim he had a bunch of companies to support his claim that he was wealthy. What a dickwit. He just proved his simple he really is.
Is the twitter name perissos more schirmer dribble ? I notice that Mrs Lorna Schirmer is claiming her home address as the company address for perissos which is a shit company that does nothing really like all the rest of their companies. The Schirmers are a really weird bunch.
A man has three names: the name he inherits, the name his parents give him, and the name he makes for himself....
Schirmer has a classy much earned name nowadays "DIPSHIT DAVE" and its not the name he inherited or his parents gave him. He managed to make that name all by himself, wanker.
68 Newmans Road, Templestowe Victoria must have a big garage because the Schirmers are back where they started ... in the doghouse.
Funny because at one of his seminars Schirmer said that if you havent made it by the time you have reached 45 you might as well give up. Bloody idiot.
Ha ha peppi, you are right they are back in the garage again. Back where they started from because that is where they belong. They are thieving deceitful people who have faked wealth and will pay any amount to prop up their fake lives. Even their friends are fake. I know because a friend of mine is hooked up with them and tells me everything. Its amusing watching their lives desintigrate after what they did to lots of people. ASIC said he was deceitful, thats good enough for me, now the world knows.
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