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Monday, December 10, 2007

Schirmer keeps digging his hole

Schirmer responded to Cosmic Connies reponse on Schirmers blog, but of course it was full of the usual Schirmer lies and rhetoric and here is my take on some of his arguments.


QUOTE from Schirmers response:
I have a question for you Connie: If I owed you $96,000 (as one person suggested they 'loaned' me) would you go through the normal legal channels to obtain it back? Has it occurred to you (and the other bemoaners who jump on the bandwagon of any negitatity) that not one person has gone through the normal legal or commercial channels to either ask for money back they think they're owed, produce any documentation regarding what they think is owed to them, or presented me with facts as to why I owe them money!
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Well, well, Mr Schirmer!!!! Herein lies probably the biggest issue that people have with you and that being your lack of morals or ethics. I have been informed that you have been confronted by the people that you owe money to. In fact they have been chasing you for answers for about 4 years, but all they got were lies, untruths and general dodging of the question.

Would you really like to see the documented proof of your misconduct around your handling of other peoples money (which you have copies of by the way) spread all over the Internet for everyone to see? I am sure it would make for some very interesting reading for all the people out there that thought you were sleazy just by looking at you as well as those who were still undecided, by having their thoughts all confirmed.

The real issue here is that the only reason you have to resort to legal action to deal with someone is that they are being dishonest, because if they were honest they would not have any such allegations leveled against them, and if they did they would quickly move to resolve them. Schirmer is hoping that he can avoid being accountable to others for losing their money (yes Schirmer, it is THEIR money) by forcing people to take the legal path to recover their money. Of course the reality is that Schirmer is a penniless bum, so most peoples actions against him will be to get him put in jail. Either way you look at it he is not going to get away with it. It is either pay up or face the consequences.

QUOTE from Schirmers response:
Neither journalist ever asked once if I owed these people any money, Fordham just kept shouting "When are you going to pay their money back." Interesting since he never asked me first if I owed it and he has never aired the filthy tactics he used in the interview. He won't because he would be banned as a journalist as what he did is against their code of practice.
UNQUOTE

Schirmer, you admitted on National Television that you owed these people money!!!!!! Besides what is the point of Ben Fordham asking an obvious question that he knew the answer to, when all you would do is deny it? You deny everything. The reason all these people are completely run out of patience is because of your continued denials about owing anybody any money. I don't know what the so called filthy tactics of Ben were other than cornering Schirmer and making him answer honestly but they could not be any worse than the filthy tactics that Schirmer has used to steal money off people and seduce women, while he pretends to be a loving husband.

QUOTE from Schirmers response:
Had I never appeared on The Secret there would be no story for the media as it would no rate. They are only interested in advertising dollars and awards, period ... not the facts or truth. Fordham will never air the uncut version, as he knows how highly edited the segments where, even to the point of inserting words I never said into sentences (we had professional editors view the segments and show how it was highly edited trash.)
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Had you never appeared on The Secret then all of your victims would have continued to suffer in silence. Your victims are very glad that you made yourself prominent, because it also brought their grievances to prominence as well. You can't have it both ways. If you want fame, then you are going to have to get used to being scrutinised, and for you that is a scary thought. I am sure that most of us have only heard a little bit about your misdemeanors. If the media did manipulate what you said through editing then go right ahead and sue them, since that is your normal mode of operation, but you haven't so again your words above are just another lot of made up garbage that you are trotting out to try and hide all the other lies that you have trotted out in the past. As for it being highly edited trash, it couldn't possibly be anything else as Ben Fordham only got trash from Schirmer in the first place.

The whole reason that you are squirming right now is that people DO have the facts. Schirmer has deluded himself to the point were he is now believing his own lies. If he had been honest and trustworthy then nobody would be chasing him right now. You promised to pay people back but never did, so why would anyone believe anything else that you say??

Now why, I ask, would RevRon be trying to score any points with Schirmer???? Schirmer is a low life conman which no one is even the slightest bit interested in trying to get on his side!! And as for blaming others, Schirmer has spent his whole blog space trying to shift the blame from himself to others, so practise what you preach if you are so set on preaching.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Someone should ask Schirmer where the books are that he promised the Mind & Money attendees LAST YEAR!

It seems that Schirmer has spent his entire business life selling promises and never making good on them. Now he complains because people are saying that this is NOT acceptable.

I ask Schirmer, put yourself in your accusers shoes and see how it fits. I bet he would be the first to make a noise.

Schirmer believes he is above the law, he is untouchable and he can do just as he pleases.

kaylee said...

Why does Schirmer think that Fordham should air the uncut version because to do that means he would have to air the uncut verson of ALL the interviews he had not just Schirmers. That would make the show hours and hours perhaps even days long. What an idiot, doesn't he think he got enough hot air time. He's full of it.

Anonymous said...

I believe THE SECRET is a paradox of deluded greed and senseless emotional ruin. People like David Schirmer NEED and are desperate for recognition. They try to multiply their possessions but have absolutely no values. They have learned how to make a living, but don’t have a life. They add years to life not life to years. They have narrow viewpoints and do larger things but not better things. They think they are big men but have very small character. They talk more, but learn less. They plan more, but accomplish less. They rush, but not wait. They focus on steep profits and have shallow relationships. They seek fancier houses but have broken homes. They make quick trips, have throwaway morality, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything. They have much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom….

How postively TRUE!

Anonymous said...

Schirmer is having a fire sale.

FIRE! Ok, he's dead.

Anonymous said...

John B, does the imagery mean that there is a 24hr surveilance on Schirmers office now or has there been for quite some time? That footage would be interesting....

If he tries to hide stuff he'll have a serious problem with the authorities because that is fraud and I'm sure his investors are well up on that or their lawyer would be. He might as well walk out and hand it all over because everything he has done up until now he is accountable for.

Anonymous said...

I believe that David Schirmer deliberately lied and deliberately deceived people for his own benefit. His actions toward the people who tried to help him are an absolute disgrace and just one of the things that he should be held accountable for. To publicly claim that he does not owe anyone anything is a very deceitful and blatant attempt to get away with his actions. And now because he has been so arrogant and not acted in an appropriate manner in business he will now have to answer to everyone including the authorities. I am sure that many people attempted to seek restitution and some sort of solution long before any of this became public knowledge but it seems that Schirmer put his faith in his threats to hush the critics when in fact it only incensed those he owed money to even more. Now it seems that the numbers are far greater than he can handle and he has lied so much that he has twisted himself up in his lies. Who cared about his involvement in the secret or anything else until he started denying that he owed the very people who funded his businesses in the first place anything. Only someone very greedy and desperately wicked does this, takes from people and then denies any of it. It now seems that many have come to the conclusion that what he did was a very calculated and deceitfully corroborated attempt to take everything which belonged to everyone else off them and never be held accountable for it. Because David Schirmer has chosen to act in that manner he will no doubt now have to face the law and his accusers in a way which will embarass him immensely and shatter what reputation he may have left. I would say that David Schirmer created this whole mess all for himself because his ego and greed took hold of him in such a way that he could see no other way out.

George said...

Well a lot of angry or very annoyed people on this blog. Schirmer should be getting excited about his little holiday soon. Wasn't he off to Egypt or somewhere about now? I am sure one of his traders told me that he was delaying the final meeting so he could visit Egypt. Don't tell me the funds have run out or isn't he allowed to leave the country now? Quite funny really, makes his words a heap of crap really.

George said...

Well a lot of angry or very annoyed people on this blog. Schirmer should be getting excited about his little holiday soon. Wasn't he off to Egypt or somewhere about now? I am sure one of his traders told me that he was delaying the final meeting so he could visit Egypt. Don't tell me the funds have run out or isn't he allowed to leave the country now? Quite funny really, makes his words a heap of crap really.

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